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Many people object to “wasting money in space” yet have no idea how much is actually spent on space exploration. The CSA’s budget, for instance, is less than the amount Canadians spend on Halloween candy every year, and most of it goes toward things like developing telecommunications satellites and radar systems to provide data for weather and air quality forecasts, environmental monitoring and climate change studies. Similarly, NASA’s budget is not spent in space but right here on Earth, where it’s invested in American businesses and universities, and where it also pays dividends, creating new jobs, new technologies and even whole new industries.
Chris Hadfield, An Astronaut’s Guide to Life on Earth (via femscinerd)
maybefeminism
maybefeminism:

SourceTaken from this post , this bothers me a lot. Most of the time I ignore things like this but I have to put my foot down this time and speak out.This illustration is a bit backwards. If someone gave me a bowl full of m&ms and said “Hey you have have some but 10 percent of them are poisoned” I wouldn’t touch the bowel as a whole and I’m pretty sure most people wouldn’t.This post is telling me just that : A few men are bad so avoid them all. Do you realize the person that made this is a man? Who’s to say he isn’t one of those poisoned m&ms based on his sex? Why not all human in general? What about the monstrous women? The woman who hurt. their. children. for reasons so low as the father doesn’t want to be with them?Not all women are monsters?Here’s a pack of skittles.10% are poisoned.No. 5% of them are poisoned.Have a few!Why is this “fear all men” brand of “feminism” popular on Tumblr? You can’t group people together like this. It’s wrong. The world is full of evil. We have to work together to keep each other safe, not do stuff like this.

maybefeminism:

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Taken from this post , this bothers me a lot. Most of the time I ignore things like this but I have to put my foot down this time and speak out.
This illustration is a bit backwards. If someone gave me a bowl full of m&ms and said “Hey you have have some but 10 percent of them are poisoned” I wouldn’t touch the bowel as a whole and I’m pretty sure most people wouldn’t.

This post is telling me just that : A few men are bad so avoid them all. Do you realize the person that made this is a man? Who’s to say he isn’t one of those poisoned m&ms based on his sex? Why not all human in general? What about the monstrous women? The woman who hurt. their. children. for reasons so low as the father doesn’t want to be with them?

Not all women are monsters?
Here’s a pack of skittles.

10% are poisoned.
No. 5% of them are poisoned.
Have a few!

Why is this “fear all men” brand of “feminism” popular on Tumblr? You can’t group people together like this. It’s wrong. The world is full of evil. We have to work together to keep each other safe, not do stuff like this.

idetesteverything

idetesteverything:

Okay, friends. Today’s lesson is going to be on the mysterious wage gap, and you and I are going to debunk this once and for all, and then some (you’ll know what I’m talking about soon). So sit down and buckle up, because we’re in for a long ride.

Just so you know, we’ll be debunking myths by…

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mensrightsactivism:

A Voice for Men, a men’s rights site that is most notable for being featured as a hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Center, is currently hosting a conference on men’s issues in Detroit.

The images above are direct quotes of what some of the speakers at this men’s rights conference have said.

Sit back and marvel at the newest human rights movement.

Thanks to both David Futrelle at We Hunted The Mammoth for the excellent article that inspired this post and whey_ over at the againstmensrights subreddit for making the above images.

Please share this post far and wide so everyone knows exactly what men’s rights activists believe!

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That’s actually one of the tamer Warren Farrell quotes. He actually said that incest victims enjoy it.

And not for nothing, but Karen Straughan was “awakened” to misandry when her son’s school put him in the remedial class when she KNEW he was a genius.

And Erin Pizzey thinks the FBI is run by feminists who also shot her dog.

These aren’t voices of hatred. These are people who clearly suffer from mental health issues. Don’t condemn them, they just need counseling, like… really badly. 

is it bad that these people are really extreme but I get the core of what they’re saying and it’s not too far off the point???

These quotes are only fucked up in that they’re very easily misconstrued, due to the controversial nature of the topic.  Except for Paul Elam, and to a lesser degree Warren Farrell, they all make perfect sense.

I’ve seen women who will antagonize the fuck out of men hoping they lose control and lash out physically.  In high school I’ve even had a girl say to me “GO ON, HIT ME!”  Of course I was able to walk away, but for men who live with women like this day in and day out, it’s very easy to imagine a woman like this cornering her man until all he can do is lash out.  Emotional abuse is just as real as physical, it just doesn’t leave visible scars and bruises.  So Karen Straughan is in no way out of line.

Furthermore, the slander about Erin Pizzey is just asinine.  How far into the sand do you have to stick your head to ignore that feminists have influence in the top levels of government.  Do you really think feminism is just something kids on tumblr do and people in government and big business don’t hold to feminist beliefs and practices?

Ooohhh she thinks feminists run the FBI that’s like believing you were abducted by aliens hurrr durrr.

This whole reply chain (except you, demonic-lionfish) is full of idiots.

P.S. OP, as long as we’re playing this game, would you like to see some of the horrendous shit said by prominent feminists?  Here you go!

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"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government,  eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and  destroy the male sex."

~Valerie Solanas, the SCUM Manifesto

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"The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist."

~National NOW Times, Jan.1988

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"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."

~Catherine Comins, Vassar College,
Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time, June 3, 1991, p. 52

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"The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it"

~Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in Women and the New Rage, p.67

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“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”  

~Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor

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“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” 

~Valerie Solanas

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“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.”

~Andrea Dworkin

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“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear”

~Susan Brownmiller

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“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.”

~Sharon Stone

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“In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.”

~Catherine MacKinnon

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“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.”

~Sally Miller Gearhart

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“All men are rapists and that’s all they are”

~Marilyn French

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“Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.”

~Germaine Greer

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"Sex is the cross on which women are crucified … Sex can only be adequately defined as universal rape."

~Hodee Edwards

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"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat."

~Hillary Clinton

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MAN: … an obsolete life form… an ordinary creature who needs to be watched … a contradictory baby-man …”
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TESTOSTERONE POISONING: … ‘Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from ‘testosterone poisoning.’”

~A Feminist Dictionary

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"Patriarchy requires violence or the subliminal threat of violence in order to maintain itself… The most dangerous situation for a woman is not an unknown man in the street, or even the enemy in wartime, but a husband or lover in the isolation of their home."

~Gloria Steinem in Revolution from Within: A Book of Self-Esteem, pp. 259-261.

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"Women take their roles of caretakers very seriously and when they hear of someone who’s taken advantage of a child, they react more strongly than men do." 

~Kathleen C. Faller

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"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it."

~Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan

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"I wonder if he [Martin Luther King] really accomplished things, or if he just stirred people up and caused a lot of riots."

~Melbourne City Councilwoman Pat Poole on her opposition to renaming a street for Martin Luther King

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"Under patriarchy, no woman is safe to live her life, or to love, or to mother children. Under patriarchy, every woman is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman’s daughter is a victim, past, present, and future. Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman,"

~Andrea Dworkin, Liberty, p.58

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"Compare victims’ reports of rape with women’s reports of sex. They look a lot alike….[T]he major distinction between intercourse (normal) and rape (abnormal) is that the normal happens so often that one cannot get anyone to see anything wrong with it."

~Catherine MacKinnon, quoted in Christina Hoff Sommers, “Hard-Line Feminists Guilty of Ms.-Representation,” Wall Street Journal, November 7, 1991.

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"The fact is that the process of killing - both rape and battery are steps in that process- is the prime sexual act for men in reality and/or in imagination.".

~Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 22..

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"Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire, and the first crude stone axe."

~Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape, p. 5..

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"The newest variations on this distressingly ancient theme center on hormones and DNA: men are biologically aggressive; their fetal brains were awash in androgen; their DNA, in order to perpetuate itself, hurls them into murder and rape."

~Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 114..

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When asked: “You [Greer] were once quoted as saying your idea of the ideal man is a woman with a dick. Are you still that way inclined?
Dr Greer (denying that she said it): “I have a great deal of difficulty with the idea of the ideal man. As far as I’m concerned, men are the product of a damanged gene. They pretend to be normal but what they’re doing sitting there with benign smiles on their faces is they’re manufacturing sperm. They do it all the time. They never stop. I mean, we women are more reasonable. We pop one follicle every 28 days, whereas they are producing 400 million sperm for each ejaculation, most of which don’t take place anywhere near an ovum. I don’t know that the ecosphere can tolerate it.”

~Germaine Greer, at a Hilton Hotel literary lunch, promoting her book #34; The Change— Women, Aging and the Menopause#34; . From a newsreport dated 14/11/91

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"One can know everything and still be unable to accept the fact that sex and murder are fused in the male consciousness, so that the one without the imminent possibly of the other is unthinkable and impossible."

~Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 21..

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"Sex as desired by the class that dominates women is held by that class to be elemental, urgent, necessary, even if or even though it appears to require the repudiation of any claim women might have to full human standing. In the subordination of women, inequality itself is sexualized, made into the experience of sexual pleasure, essential to sexual desire." 

~Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 265..

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"AIDS education will not get very far until young men are taught how not to rape young women and how to eroticize trust and consent; and until young women are supported in the way they need to be redefining their desires."

~Naomi Wolf, The Beauty Myth, p. 168..

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"In everything men make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, still their sobs as they mourn the empitness and alienation of their lives."

~Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 214..

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"One of the reasons that women are kept in a state of economic degradation- because that’s what it is for most women- is because that is the best way to keep women sexually available."

~Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 145..

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"Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks."

~Andrea Dworkin in the Philadelphia Inquirer, May 21, 1995..

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"All men benefit from rape, because all men benefit from the fact that women are not free in this society; that women cower; that women are afraid; that women cannot assert the rights that we have, limited as those rights are, because of the ubiquitous presence of rape."

~Andrea Dworkin, Letters from a War Zone, p. 142..

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"We have long known that rape has been a way of terrorizing us and keeping us in subjection. Now we also know that we have participated, although unwittingly, in the rape of our minds."

~Historian Gerda Lerner in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women, p. 55..

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"How will the family unit be destroyed? …[T]he demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare."

~Roxanne Dunbar in Female Liberation

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"We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.

~Robin Morgan, from Sisterhood Is Powerful (ed), 1970, p. 537

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"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership. Only when manhood is dead—and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it"

~Andrea Dworkin

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"The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together…. Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process…. No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibilities to her children… Families will be finally destroyed only when a revolutionary social and economic organization permits people’s needs for love and security to be met in ways that do not impose divisions of labor, or any external roles, at all."

~Linda Gordon, “Functions of the Family,” WOMEN: A Journal of Liberation, Fall, 1969

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"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men…"

~Elizabeth Stanton, One Woman, One Vote, Wheeler, p. 58

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"Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don’t like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I’ll run you down."

~Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia. (Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia - 9 February 1996)

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"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."

~Marilyn French

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"My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don’t even need to shrug. I simply don’t care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don’t matter."

~Marilyn French; The Woman’s Room.

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"All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women… All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men’s prey."

~Marilyn French

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"We live, I am trying to say, in an epidemic of male violence against women."

~Katha Pollitt.

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"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman."

~Catherine MacKinnon

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"The traditional flowers of courtship are the traditional flowers of the grave, delivered to the victim before the kill. The cadaver is dressed up and made up and laid down and ritually violated and consecrated to an eternity of being used."

~Andrea Dworkin

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"The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations…obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign."

~Marilyn French

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"Men renounce whatever they have in common with women so as to experience no commonality with women; and what is left…is one piece of flesh a few inches long, the penis. The penis is the man; the man is human; the penis signifies humanity."

~Andrea Dworkin

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"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs."

~Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.)

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"Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence."

~Judith Levine

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"Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ‘reach WITHIN women to fuck/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ‘even if she does not feel forced.’

~Judith Levine, (explicating comment profiling prevailing misandry.)

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"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness…can be trained to do most things."

~Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men.)

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"Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do."

~Popular Feminist Graffiti

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"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, ‘hate in love,’ for the men women share their lives with—husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, coworkers."

~Judith Levine, My Enemy, My love

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"There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of ‘sex acts’…includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder."

~J. Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document, (A southern Women’s Writing Collective: Women Against Sex.)

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"All men are good for is fucking, and running over with a truck".

~Statement made by A University of Maine Feminist Administrator, quoted by Richard Dinsmore, who brought a successful civil suit against the University in the amount of $600,000. Richard had protested the quote; was dismissed thereafter on the grounds of harassment; and responded by bringing suit against the University. 1995 settlement.

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"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it "Her". Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination.

~Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women

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"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom."

~Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women.

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"I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father’s concubine… What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What’s more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal.".

~Journalist Sylvia Fraser

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"We are taught, encouraged, moulded by and lulled into accepting a range of false notions about the family. As a source of some of our most profound experiences, it continues to be such an integral part of our emotional lives that it appears beyond criticism. Yet hiding from the truth of family life leaves women and children vulnerable."

~Canadian Panel on Violence Against Women.

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"Catharine MacKinnon maintains that ‘the private is a sphere of battery, marital rape and women’s exploited labor.’ In this way, privacy and family are reduced to nothing more than aspects of the master plan, which is male domination. Democratic freedoms and the need to keep the state’s nose out of our personal affairs are rendered meaningless. The real reason our society cherishes privacy is because men have invented it as an excuse to conceal their criminality. If people still insist that the traditional family is about love and mutual aid—ideals which, admittedly, are sometimes betrayed—they’re ‘hiding from the truth.’ The family isn’t a place where battery and marital rape sometimes happen but where little else apparently does. Sick men don’t simply molest their daughters, they operate in league with their wives to ‘breed’ them for that purpose."

~Donna Laframboise; The Princess at the Window; (in a critical explication of the Catharine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinhem et al tenets of misandric belief.)

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"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire."

~Robin Morgan

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"And let’s put one lie to rest for all time: the lie that men are oppressed, too, by sexism—the lie that there can be such a thing as ‘men’s liberation groups.’ Oppression is something that one group of people commits against another group, specifically because of a ‘threatening’ characteristic shared by the latter group—skin, color, sex or age, etc. The oppressors are indeed FUCKED UP by being masters, but those masters are not OPPRESSED. Any master has the alternative of divesting himself of sexism or racism—the oppressed have no alternative—for they have no power but to fight. In the long run, Women’s Liberation will of course free men—but in the short run it’s going to cost men a lot of privilege, which no one gives up willingly or easily. Sexism is NOT the fault of women—kill your fathers, not your mothers".

~Robin Morgan.

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"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women’s bodies."

~Andrea Dworkin

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"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference."

~Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime.

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"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist".

~Ti-Grace Atkinson, Amazon Odyssey (p. 86).

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"(Rape) is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear".

~Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will p.6

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"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression…"

~Sheila Jeffrys.

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   MALE:…represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants…the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.

    MAN:…an obsolete life form… an ordinary creature who needs to be watched…a contradictory baby-man…

~From ‘A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

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"If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal—a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students—I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment…of persuading students that women are oppressed

~Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women.

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"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex."

~Valerie Solana, SCUM Manifesto (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

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"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact."
Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood.

And:

Another posting on FEMISA: “Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men’s violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. Assaults on women and children are mostly perpetrated by men whom they are supposed to love and trust: fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, step-fathers.”

~Both quotes taken from Daphne Patai’s excellent critical work,
HETEROPHOBIA

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"No, we don’t believe that any woman should have this

choice. No woman should be authorised to stay at home to bring up her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. It is a way of forcing women in a certain direction.”
~Simone de Beauvoir

elam’s quote is from a satirical article in response to a un-ironic  jezebel article in which the jezebel writers gloated about how they had hit their boyfriends, you know domestic violence

Oh and regarding Warren Farrell’s quote, I seem to recall a bit Louis C.K. did in which he describes doing a routine in some bar and picking up the waitress afterwards.  He went back to her place and as things got intimate she eventually told him ‘no.’  I think, or in some other way indicated she wasn’t consenting…but she continued to make out with him.  After a while he got up and left.

The next night when he was performing again, she came up to him afterwards and asked why he never slept with her and he said “you said no!”  And she’s like “I know, I wanted you to take me forcefully.”

And he’s like…”wow, I’m not going to fucking rape you.”

So yes, there are women who exist in the world who like to play “hard to get” and there is a basis for Warren Farrel to suggest that some women say “no” with their mouths and “yes” with their bodies.

Every.  Single.  One.  Of those quotes is true within their context.

Paul was satirizing.  His statement was supposed to be horrific to point out the brutal double standards of feminist rhetoric.  No surprise that feminists then use said rhetoric to demonize him.

Ferral’s commentary about ‘date fraud’ is 100% accurate.  If a woman leads a man on, lets him pay for date, and has absolutely zero interest in him, then it is date fraud.  His statements are about women who intentionally flirt and manipulate to get what they want.  Again, context.

Karen’s commentary is accurate.  Women do batter their husbands.  And men are told not to hit a woman.  And so what do you think is going to happen in a situation where a guy is pushed to the brink of frustration, after being beaten and attacked over and over?  He’s going to lose control, like anyone would, and ONE strike from a guy like that will crush a woman like me.  A woman pushing a man’s buttons, hitting him, pressing him into a corner IS ‘asking’ for a beating, just like a guy doing the same is asking to get the shit kicked out of him.

Erin:  If you think women don’t have rape fantasies, you’re fucking stupid.  No woman wants to be pulled into an alley and raped, which is why it is called a RAPE FANTASY.  Approximately 40% of women have rape fantasies.  So, please, shut up.

Stephan is right, if not oversimplified.  It has been scientifically postulated that assholes exist on a genetic level because throughout human evolution assholes have been the ones who succeed and, as such, get to have sex with lots of women.  Women do, ultimately, choose what genetic traits move on to the next generation by choosing who they sleep with and which man’s babies they carry.

Mike’s point is valid, if a bit myopic. Women do get coddled growing up, in general.  Women are coddled by society and by parents.  He is saying men (fathers and husbands) not to put up with that shit when it is displayed.  How is that wrong?  Admittedly, he should also be faulting the mothers and the women who whine themselves, but I’d imagine if he did that he’d get even more flak.